{ "id": "2505.03017", "version": "v1", "published": "2025-05-05T20:37:51.000Z", "updated": "2025-05-05T20:37:51.000Z", "title": "Local--global generation property of commutators in finite $π$-soluble groups", "authors": [ "Cristina Acciarri", "Robert M. Guralnick", "Evgeny Khukhro", "Pavel Shumyatsky" ], "comment": "arXiv admin note: text overlap with arXiv:2404.14599", "categories": [ "math.GR" ], "abstract": "For a group $A$ acting by automorphisms on a group $G$, let $I_G(A)$ denote the set of commutators $[g,a]=g^{-1}g^a$, where $g\\in G$ and $a\\in A$, so that $[G,A]$ is the subgroup generated by $I_G(A)$. We prove that if $A$ is a $\\pi$-group of automorphisms of a $\\pi$-soluble finite group $G$ such that any subset of $I_G(A)$ generates a subgroup that can be generated by $r$ elements, then the rank of $[G,A]$ is bounded in terms of $r$. Examples show that such a result does not hold without the assumption of $\\pi$-solubility. Earlier we obtained this type of results for groups of coprime automorphisms and for Sylow $p$-subgroups of $p$-soluble groups.", "revisions": [ { "version": "v1", "updated": "2025-05-05T20:37:51.000Z" } ], "analyses": { "keywords": [ "local-global generation property", "soluble groups", "commutators", "soluble finite group", "coprime automorphisms" ], "note": { "typesetting": "TeX", "pages": 0, "language": "en", "license": "arXiv", "status": "editable" } } }